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Post Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:56 pm

Go go Godzilla..

Hmmm...Cute scientist... ;)

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/godzilla.htm

FOSSIL FIND: “GODZILLA” CROCODILE HAD HEAD OF A DINSOSAUR, FINS LIKE A FISH

COLUMBUS , Ohio – Researchers have discovered evidence of an ancient sea creature that would have made Tyrannosaurus rex, think twice before stepping into the ocean.

At the southern tip of South America , they found fossils of an entirely new species of ancient crocodile – one whose massive jaws and jagged teeth would have made it the most fearsome predator in the sea.
Diego Pol

Unlike the crocodiles we know today, Dakosaurus andiniensis lived entirely in the water, and had fins instead of legs. But that's not all that made it unusual. Two other features – its hefty size and T. rex-like snout – have earned it a unique place in history – and the nickname “Godzilla.”

Diego Pol, a postdoctoral researcher at the Mathematical Biosciences Institute and the Department of Biomedical Informatics at Ohio State University , determined that the oddly shaped fossil specimens found in Patagonia belong on the crocodile family tree.

“This species was very unusual, because other marine crocodiles that were around at the same time had very delicate features – long, skinny snouts and needle-like teeth for catching small fish and mollusks,” he said. “But this croc was just the opposite. It had a short snout, and large teeth with serrated edges. It was definitely a predator of large sea creatures.”

Paleontologists Zulma Gasparini and Luis Spalletti of the National University of La Plata in Argentina uncovered the crocodile's fossil bones in Patagonia ; Pol used sophisticated software to map the features of those bones and determine its lineage. Together, they describe the creature in the latest issue of the journal Science.


It measured 13 feet from nose to tail. Its jaws were a foot-and-a-half long, with interlocking serrated teeth up to four inches long.

There were many other sizes of marine crocodile species alive 135 million years ago, toward the end of the Jurassic, but all had long snouts and needle-like teeth. None were larger than D. andiniensis, and none were as robust.
“This species was very unusual, because other marine crocodiles that were around at the same time had very delicate features – long, skinny snouts and needle-like teeth for catching small fish and mollusks. But this croc was just the opposite."

Yet, Pol found that the gargantuan crocodile was more closely related to the smallest of its brethren than any of the larger species. The shape of the nostrils, eye sockets, and other areas of the skull combined with a telltale groove in its jaw to prove its lineage.

“This is the most remarkable change in the size and shape of the teeth and snout in the history of marine crocs,” Pol said.

The three fossil specimens were found in 1996 – one on farmland in the Mendoza province of Patagonia , and two in a rock formation in Neuquén province to the south. During the time that D. andiniensis was alive, the region was a deep tropical bay of the Pacific Ocean .

The researchers don't yet know what events triggered the relatively sudden emergence of the large crocodile, but the size and shape of the teeth indicate that it probably fed on other marine reptiles and large sea creatures in the bay instead of small fish.

The National Geographic Society funded this research, and will feature D. andiniensis in the December 2005 issue of National Geographic Magazine.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 221017.htm

Fossil Find: 'Godzilla' Crocodile Had Head Of A Dinosaur, Fins Like A Fish

Researchers have discovered evidence of an ancient sea creature that would have made Tyrannosaurus rex, think twice before stepping into the ocean.

Photos of Dakosaurus andiniensis skull, with diagrams and a close-up view of the teeth -- including a microscopic view of one tooth's serrated edge. (Figure courtesy of Diego Pol, Ohio State University)

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At the southern tip of South America , they found fossils of an entirely new species of ancient crocodile – one whose massive jaws and jagged teeth would have made it the most fearsome predator in the sea.

Unlike the crocodiles we know today, Dakosaurus andiniensis lived entirely in the water, and had fins instead of legs. But that's not all that made it unusual. Two other features – its hefty size and T. rex-like snout – have earned it a unique place in history – and the nickname “Godzilla.”

Diego Pol, a postdoctoral researcher at the Mathematical Biosciences Institute and the Department of Biomedical Informatics at Ohio State University , determined that the oddly shaped fossil specimens found in Patagonia belong on the crocodile family tree.

“This species was very unusual, because other marine crocodiles that were around at the same time had very delicate features – long, skinny snouts and needle-like teeth for catching small fish and mollusks,” he said. “But this croc was just the opposite. It had a short snout, and large teeth with serrated edges. It was definitely a predator of large sea creatures.”

Paleontologists Zulma Gasparini and Luis Spalletti of the National University of La Plata in Argentina uncovered the crocodile's fossil bones in Patagonia ; Pol used sophisticated software to map the features of those bones and determine its lineage. Together, they describe the creature in the latest issue of the journal Science.

It measured 13 feet from nose to tail. Its jaws were a foot-and-a-half long, with interlocking serrated teeth up to four inches long.

There were many other sizes of marine crocodile species alive 135 million years ago, toward the end of the Jurassic, but all had long snouts and needle-like teeth. None were larger than D. andiniensis, and none were as robust.

Yet, Pol found that the gargantuan crocodile was more closely related to the smallest of its brethren than any of the larger species. The shape of the nostrils, eye sockets, and other areas of the skull combined with a telltale groove in its jaw to prove its lineage.

“This is the most remarkable change in the size and shape of the teeth and snout in the history of marine crocs,” Pol said.

The three fossil specimens were found in 1996 – one on farmland in the Mendoza province of Patagonia , and two in a rock formation in Neuquén province to the south. During the time that D. andiniensis was alive, the region was a deep tropical bay of the Pacific Ocean .

The researchers don't yet know what events triggered the relatively sudden emergence of the large crocodile, but the size and shape of the teeth indicate that it probably fed on other marine reptiles and large sea creatures in the bay instead of small fish.

The National Geographic Society funded this research, and will feature D. andiniensis in the December 2005 issue of National Geographic Magazine.
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:59 pm

They also found this guy...I must need to read more...
Because.....



Drawing of Gigantopithecus blackii
Courtesy of McMaster University
For nearly 80 years, Gigantopithecus blackii has intrigued scientists, who have pieced together a description using nothing more than a handful of teeth and a set of jawbones.


^^^This portion of the article makes me wonder if they aren't jumping the gun.
http://news.mongabay.com/2005/1109-mcmaster.html

Giant 1,200 pound ape lived alongside humans
McMaster University news release
November 9, 2005


A gigantic ape, measuring about 10 feet tall and weighing up to 1,200 pounds, co-existed alongside humans, a geochronologist at McMaster University has discovered.



Using a high-precision absolute-dating method (techniques involving electron spin resonance and uranium series), Jack Rink, associate professor of geography and earth sciences at McMaster, has determined that Gigantopithecus blackii, the largest primate that ever lived, roamed southeast Asia for nearly a million years before the species died out 100,000 years ago. This was known as the Pleistocene period, by which time humans had already existed for a million years.

"A missing piece of the puzzle has always focused on pin-pointing when Gigantopithecus existed," explains Rink. "This is a primate that co-existed with humans at a time when humans were undergoing a major evolutionary change. Guangxi province in southern China, where the Gigantopithecus fossils were found, is the same region where some believe the modern human race originated."

Research into Gigantopithecus blackii began in 1935, when the Dutch paleontologist G.H. von Koenigswald discovered a yellowish molar among the "dragon bones" for sale in a Hong Kong pharmacy. Traditional Chinese medicine maintains that dragon bones, basically fossil bones and teeth, possess curative powers when the fossils are ground into a fine powder, and ingested.


Drawing of Gigantopithecus blackii
Courtesy of McMaster University
For nearly 80 years, Gigantopithecus blackii has intrigued scientists, who have pieced together a description using nothing more than a handful of teeth and a set of jawbones.

"The size of these specimens - the crown of the molar, for instance, measures about an inch across - helped us understand the extraordinary size of the primate," says Rink. Sample studies further revealed that Gigantopithecus was an herbivore, feasting mainly on bamboo. Some believe that the primate's voracious appetite for bamboo ultimately placed him at the losing end of the evolutionary scale against his more nimble human competition.

Rink's discovery coincides with an invitation to join the renowned New York-based Explorers Club. Established in 1904, the Club's seven founding members included two polar explorers, the curator of birds and mammals at The American Museum of Natural History, an archaeologist, a war correspondent and author, a professor of physics and an ethnologist. Sir Edmund Hillary is Club's honorary chairman. Membership includes an eclectic range of field scientists and explorers from more than 60 countries. Rink joins McMaster colleagues Hendrik Poinar (associate professor, Anthropology) and Ed Reinhardt (associate professor, Geography and Earth Science) who are also members.

Rink is currently in Thailand exploring an area where it is believed Gigantopithecus also roamed. Rink returns to campus on November 19.





This is a modified press release from McMaster University
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:05 pm

This is cool...Actual photos of how a giant squid moves..

8) http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... index.html
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littlewing

Post Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:21 pm

I am amazed at the genetic history of out planet that is coming to light as a result of global warming. Our danger of social downfall comes with more irrefutable truth about who we are and how long we have been here... and our ancient neighbors. What a view of history!!

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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:55 pm

Ack! Hadn't quite looked at it that way. The irony. Thanks for the reality check lw. You are so right.
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Zia Diva Georgia

Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:46 am

This is completly off track, but did y'all know there is a CHURCH OF GODZILLA?

There's a town in WA called Zilla, which had a Church of God. They got teased so much about being Church of God-Zilla, that they actually changed the church's name. Membership went up because people felt a church willing to make lemonaid when dealt a lemon must have a good grounding and sense of humor. Not at all sure how the CofG headquarters felt about it...........

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Georgia
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:35 am

:lol: A zilla of zealots, eh? :lol:
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TheDarkestLight

Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:14 am

It's a scam...you're trying to make us thing there was no adam & eve...
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Post Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:41 pm

What?!? No Adam and Eve? Well, then who's Steve gonna date? Sheesh! Next think you know you'll be tryin' to pass off that we've got no Santa...Blasphemer!!
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littlewing

Post Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:21 pm

Hey, how'd our baby kitten get into your avatar, Andy?!

10 week old Chico Dorito Mondavo Gonzalez...same color and leg markings... well, OK, I guess they're pretty common! :roll:

Church of Godzilla, huh? :lol: :lol:
I guess they'll never make good competition for the Glorious Spaghetti Monster. Too hung up on a different god....


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Post Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:48 pm

littlewing wrote:Hey, how'd our baby kitten get into your avatar, Andy?!

10 week old Chico Dorito Mondavo Gonzalez...same color and leg markings... well, OK, I guess they're pretty common!


Well, just like the snack Doritos, they'll make more. :wink: I felt this avatar appropriate for the holiday. :lol:

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